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Famed spy Mata Hari gained access to military secrets through sex. Could Monica Lewinsky, a very young woman with higher security clearance than most high ranking military personnel and, through her special access to the president, possiblly do the same? - Rod's Dad
I'm really outraged at Clinton! He's clearly having more fun than I am, and that's not fair. Share the wealth, Bill! I don't want a tax cut, I want one of those women.
It does seem rather unfair that his alleged "crime" is trying to keep his private life private. When that's illegal, we are all in deep shit. As I was telling a friend yesterday, "Put this thing in some perspective. Just reflect on how stupid all of this is going to seem twenty years from now. We will all be appropriately ashamed of ourselves." His counter argument, such as it was, was "So what, it's fun NOW."
As you may guess, I have gut gurgling fears that there is a massive conspiracy afoot led by the believers in Roswell, The Remnant Royalists, the FreeMasons, the German National Socialists (Nazi), Assorted fascists, and other folks more generally referred to as Republicans. - P.C. Seldom
Clinton validates the feminist position that men will cheat when given a chance. (He gives them EVERYTHING they want.) This latest episode proves how far he'll go to further the feminist cause. - Anthony L. Sprout
For the time, forget all the legal wranglings and constitutional interpretations, and even the issue of the President's privacy. Just imagine if a Republican politician was involved in a scandal with an intern.Imagine if, as part of the defense of the politician, people repeated the intern's comments about "knee pads," referred to her as a "stalker," and claimed she was obsessed with the politician. Imagine if, on several chatlines, the politician's supporters accused her of "blowing her way to the top", called her "Blewinsky," and commented on her weight. Imagine if a previous accuser was dismissed by the politician's campaign manager with "if you drag $200 through a trailer park, there's no telling what story you'll get". Imagine if that accuser was also deemed "ugly" by members of the media.
Do you think this politician would be labeled a feminist hero? Do you think NOW would continue to support him? Do you think the politician would get any other reaction than a public lynching?
Regardless of what happened between these two, I'm disgusted by the misogyny displayed by Ms. Lewinsky's and Ms. Jones' detractors, and the way NOW and others have totally ignored this. Does this really mean that sexual harrassment is nothing more than a political game? Then that is very, very sad. - Dave Platt
The public has been led astray. The scandal is a ruse developed and directed from the highest office in the nation. Yes, Mrs. C is behind it.
It's a brilliant ploy to garner sympathy for the president by the appearance of a conservative conspiracy. Her genius is evidenced by the soaring approval ratings for the president. Don't try to contact me. - Deep Throat
I was born the year of the Watergate burglary, and I've always been interested in the era. Even though I come from a liberal Democrat family, I tried to look at the scandal with a certain amount of detachment. I read "All The President's Men," and was most interested in the tone of the Nixon administration's denials. Instead of denying the allegations, they attacked the Washington Post as a liberal media giant "out to get" the President.
Now, seeing Hillary Clinton and other Democrats on TV, I hear them accuse Ken Starr of being part of a right-wing "conspiracy" to discredit Clinton. I ask these people this: if the sole goal was to discredit Clinton, why the steady revelation of new scandals, which give the President a chance to cry Victim?
I remember reading in Rene Denfield's book on feminism, The New Victorians, that when a certain politician was first accused of sexual harassment, Gloria Steinem came to his defense, noting his voting record on feminist issues. The politician? Bob Packwood. I definitely see a parallel here. Never mind the current allegations - what about Paula Jones? How has the fact that he admitted to lying about Gennifer Flowers been lost in the shuffle?
I do understand the uneasiness people have about discussing a president's personal life. Regardless of the perjury allegation, there's a deeper issue, I think. Bill Clinton sold himself to the American public as a family man. As much as any other politician, he used his allegedly happy family life as an asset in his election. Why do politicians who thrust their families into the spotlight, who try to create homey images of touch football and dogs and cats in the yard, suddenly get upset when we care about the *negative* aspects of their personal life?
The saddest thing is that this really trivializes the feminist message about sexual harassment. It apparently seems that sexual harassment is only bad when it's someone feminists otherwise don't like. If it's a politician who is "pro-women," it suddenly doesn't matter. - Dave Platt
He won with one of his platforms, "Jail Deadbeat Dads", to what, eliminate the competition? Clinton voters, mostly female, were asked if they thought he cheated on his wife, and harassed women at work. Something like 75% of women who did vote for him said yes, they thought he did those things, which is shocking. If I remember right, I believe less than half of American men voted for Clinton.
Then came this very interesting quote in the Twin Cities paper the other day from Judy Melanson, Executive Director, Minnesota Women's Political Caucus; "This just proves that we've got to elect more women to office, because they just don't have this need to go out and conquer."
I find it interesting that people like me did not vote for him as we thought he was degrading to women, plus I was disturbed at his disregard for honest fathers. So Judy there likely voted for him, and NOW uses his obvious weakness for political gain. - JF J
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